Sarah Palin

You're a Democrat.

I'm not a democrat, I'm an independent who supports Obama. But, I welcome you to a debate either way. :)

You're an Independent who doesn't like McCain/Palin. There is really no reason to debate, no ones minds will be changed. We can surf the net and come up with good or bad points for either side. Face it, you're not being fair and balanced and I don't blame you, I would also only post the good points of the candidate that I support and none of the bad. I also will be the first to admit that if I did debate the issue I would also probably only post the bad points about the candidate that I don't want to win.

Actually debate is fun even when we all know that those of us who are engaged in it are not going to change many minds.

Having said that, you are right that I am presenting points that defend my candidate or point of view and I make no mystery of where I'm coming from. I like to play devil's advocate sometimes so you may catch me in a game of that but that's part of what makes this fun.

Enjoy your evening :)

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I just spoke directly to Bruce Riddle, the source of this story. This story is true, but Bruce is upset because this was not supposed to get wide distribution. His phone is ringing off the hook. He indicates he only meant to send it to family, and someone put it out to the wider audience.

But I wanted you all to have this information so that as the attacks on Sarah Palin intensify, people will know part of the real story about her counterpart in this race. Character and trust are central to our deliberations.

Already the attack machine has been trying to dig dirt on Sarah Palin. Here we have real insight into the character of Sen. Biden.

I joked with Bruce that maybe this will turn out to be a good thing: maybe Biden will pay up!

~~Allan

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Family, I feel an obligation to honesty and truth to share with you some facts. My Father and Mother instilled in me the values and morals of treating people fairly and always being honest. If you purchase something, you pay for it. If you borrow something, you give it back.

I have been “stiffed” three times in my 30 year professional career by someone who I rendered services to, gave a finished product to, but who refused to pay for those services even though they acknowledged the services and products were correct, were what they asked for, and were never challenged for not being correct. I am lucky in having only three, but those three hurt badly.

Joe Biden was one of those people. I worked on his 1988 Presidential campaign financial disclosure engagement. I busted it for him and got everything right. He stiffed me for over $15,000 worth of work. He refused to pay once he dropped out of the race. I did similar Capitol Hill campaign financial disclosure work for Bob Dole, Pat Buchanan, and a Democratic candidate for Ambassador to New Zealand. All of those folks paid even though they lost the election or did not get the appointment. That type of work is very demanding and very tedious because your efforts are scrutinized by Congress. Biden did not care.

I am on the Board of Directors of a company that owns a majority position in a private jet management company in Northern Virginia. They manage jets for businesses and rich folks. They also charter planes to the public. This past winter John Thompson chartered over $250,000 worth of air time. He paid every penny.

Joe Biden, in his latest unsuccessful run for President, chartered over $150,000 worth of air time. He PAID ZERO. He continues to refuse to pay stating his race is over and he is out of money. He never once complained about his flights. Joe Biden is a rich man. He could pay.

Joe Biden is a liar and a cheat. I know it firsthand. Character is what life is all about. Joe Biden is a man of bad character and sets a bad example for America.

I feel compelled to share this dark side of a man who asks for your vote and trust.

Best Regards, Bruce D. Riddle, CPA, CFP
BDR Associates, LLC
2401 Research Boulevard, Suite 101
Rockville, MD 20850
Website - www.bdrtax.com

http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/?p=1895

This was a mass e-mail.  It is listed at Snopes.com.  They were unable to determine if it was true or untrue but did point out that it is common for politicians to have lingering debts for years.

It also states that the author never produced proof that money was owed but did finally write and say that "the bills have been paid in full.

It's a pretty funny article, really.  He says he could not lead a normal life after this E-mail got wide distribution.  Asked Snopes to pass it on that the bills are paid so that he could die a natural death.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bidendebt.asp

Either way, it was a fun little detraction from Sarah Palin.

By the way,  here is a great thing that Joe Biden did for women.  He's admired by many for having done this.

Senator Biden wrote the ground-breaking Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) in the 1990s that set the national agenda on criminalizing violence against women and holding batterers truly accountable. It encouraged states to set up coordinated community responses to domestic violence and rape; was the catalyst for passage of hundreds of state laws prohibiting family violence; and provided resources to set up shelters so battered women abused by husbands and boyfriends had a place to go. The law also established the national hotline that over 1.5 million abused women have called for help. By empowering women to make changes in their lives, and by training police and prosecutors to arrest and convict abusive husbands instead of telling them to take a walk around the block, domestic violence is down 50 percent and rape is down 60 percent nationwide.

Each time the Senator renewed the Act – in 2000 and 2005 – he pushed for new initiatives. In 2000, the Act was attached to ground-breaking laws on human trafficking – crimes where over 80% of the victims are women. In 2005, the Violence Against Women Act tackled issues like domestic violence in public housing and treating children witnesses of family violence.

JOHN MCCAIN PUT SARAH PALIN ON THE BALLOT PURELY TO PREY ON HILLARY SUPPORTERS. I, AS A WOMAN, FIND INCREDIBLY INSULTING THAT JOHN MCCAIN THINKS WOMEN OF AMERICA ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO FALL FOR THIS DESPRITE PLOY. HOWEVER , UNFORTUNATELY, WOMENS GROUPS SUCH AS PUMA ARE FALLING FOR THIS. THEY ARE BLINDLY SUPPORTING PALIN BASED ON GENDER. I AM AN OBAMA SUPPORTER AND HAVE BEEN SINCE DAY ONE. BUT IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP LADIES. TO COMPARE SARAH PALIN TO HILLARY CLINTON IS A HUGE INSULT TO HILLARY CLINTON!

But she was a hockey mom and her husband is the world champoin snow machiner too. It's just absurd!!

I'm leaning towards thinking the information revealed in this email has a ring of truth to it. Of course the bill has been paid in full now, but, only after the email was made public.

While she was trying to figure out what the Bush Doctrine was while getting her first national interview, she actully contradicted herself. Again!

This one was about global warming. In the past she maintained that humans had no bearing on global warming. Now, she's changed her mind. How convenient! She now agrees with McCain on that! Don't count on it. If she ever has any input on the subject you can bet your last dollar she'll be ignoring the issue.

That whole Bush Doctrine thing was pretty funny. She was acting like a high school kid on a job interview. She didn't know the answer so she skated around it until she got enough input from the interviewer to give an answer. Turns out she wants the nation of Georgia to join Nato and if that happens then we're between a rock and a hard place because that would force us to get into it with Russia.

She's a loose cannon.

Here is what the talking heads have to say about her interview.  If you are a fan of Palin then hold onto your hat because it ain't pretty.  I love what Senator Chafee had to say about her.  And he's a Republican supporter of Obama.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/12/1382162.aspx

Here are some of the reviews of Palin’s interview with Charlie Gibson. The lead from the Los Angeles Times: "Palin took a hard line on Russia and Iran on Thursday as she fielded questions on foreign affairs for the first time since Republican presidential candidate John McCain named her his running mate two weeks ago. The Alaska governor also reversed her stand on the cause of climate change, telling ABC News that she believes ‘man's activities certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming.’ Less than a year ago, she said the opposite.”

The New York Times’ Jim Rutenberg: "At times visibly nervous, at others appearing to hew so closely to prepared answers that she used the exact same phrases repeatedly, Ms. Palin most visibly stumbled when she was asked by Mr. Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms. Palin did not seem to know what he was talking about. Mr. Gibson, sounding like an impatient teacher, informed her that it meant the right of ‘anticipatory self-defense.’”

The Times’ Alessandra Stanley: “Ms. Palin didn’t look rattled or lose her cool in her first interview with Mr. Gibson, the network anchor, on Thursday night, but she skittered through with general answers, sticking to talking points that flowed out quickly and spiritedly, a little too much by rote to satisfy her interviewer that she was giving his questions serious consideration… ABC News delivered the first glimpse of Ms. Palin without a script or a cheering audience, and it was a strained and illuminating conversation… At times, her eyes looked uncertain and her voice hesitated, and she looked like a student trying to bend prepared answers to fit unexpected questions.” 

The Washington Post: “GOP Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin … appeared to back Barack Obama's assertion that the United States could attack targets in Pakistan without the country's permission -- a position that her running mate Sen. John McCain has called ‘naïve.’”

“Pressed three times by Charles Gibson of ABC News on whether the United States had the right to make cross-border attacks into Pakistan, ‘with or without the approval of the Pakistani government,’ Palin twice avoided the question before answering: ‘I believe that America has to exercise all options in order to stop the terrorists who are hell bent on destroying America and our allies. We have got to have all options out there on the table.’”

Howard Wolfson adds his two cents. “Up until last night's interview with ABC's Charlie Gibson, the McCain campaign had shielded Governor Palin from the media. And based on her performance yesterday they were right to do so… Her answers to a fairly basic set of foreign policy questions were formulaic and unimpressive. She didn't say anything disqualifying, but it is unlikely that anyone watching would have come away sanguine about her ability to step in as President on Day One if necessary.”

The Boston Globe: “Palin … presented a confident face in what was considered an important early test of her knowledge of foreign affairs. She answered most questions by repeating McCain's view of the world, but also made some missteps, at one point seeming unfamiliar with the ‘Bush doctrine’ of preemptive war while under repeated questioning from ABC News anchor Charlie Gibson. She responded by saying ‘In what respect, Charlie?’ and went on to speak in broad, general terms about Bush's efforts to fight terrorism. Gibson later explained that the doctrine laid down by Bush after Sept. 11, 2001, asserted that the United States has the right to launch preemptive wars on nations that present a threat.”
 
What about that Lincoln comment? “Harold Holzer, a prominent Lincoln scholar and author of multiple Lincoln biographies, said last night that Palin's original comment that US troops are on a task from God does not follow Lincoln's quote. ‘I think there is no computing the precise Lincoln quote with her own quote,’ Holzer said. ‘Lincoln sought guidance from God, he didn't tell people that God was guiding him. It is just different.’”

The Washington Post's Kornblut also notes Palin attempted to link Iraq and 9/11 in her remarks yesterday at the ceremony seeing her son off to Iraq. She told “an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would ‘defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans.’”

More: "As she has been since McCain plucked her from relative obscurity two weeks ago, Palin continues to be surrounded by senior McCain advisers even here; the senator's top strategist, Steve Schmidt, and several others accompanied her to Alaska. The group is guiding Palin through a crash course on policy issues and is revising the campaign's original plan to send her on fundraising missions separately from McCain."

The AP: Palin "sidestepped questions on whether she had the national security credentials needed to be commander in chief. Republican presidential candidate John McCain has defended his running mate's qualifications, citing her command of the Alaska National Guard and Alaska's proximity to Russia. ... she struggled with foreign policy, unable to describe President Bush's doctrine of pre-emptive strikes against threatening nations and acknowledging she's never met a foreign head of state."

"Former senator Lincoln Chafee, the Rhode Island Republican who is backing Democrat Barack Obama, yesterday stood by his remarks calling Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin a ‘cocky wacko.’”

OK, I JUST FINISHED WATCHING THE NEW MCCAIN AD. THIS MAN WILL JUST BOLD FACE LIE ABOUT ANYTHING! THIS NEW AD LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE THAT ALL US CITIZENS WILL HAVE A HUGE HIKE IN OUR TAXES IF OBAMA IS ELECTED! PLEASE , PLEASE, PLEASE PEOPLE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE GOING TO THE POLLS ON NOV.4TH. OBAMA'S PROPOSED HIKE WILL ONLY EFFECT THOSE THAT MAKE MORE THAN 250K A YEAR. THE REST OF US WILL GET TO KEEP MORE OF OUR PAYCHECKS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I SURE AM SICK OF LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK WHEN I MAKE A PRETTY GOOD LIVING.
THANK YOU "ELWOOD GUY" FOR ALL THE GREAT INFO. HUFFINGTON POST ALSO HAS GREAT REFERENCES. CHECK IT OUT PEOPLE.

And you are right. Obama can take the money from putting the over $250K back to Clinton levels and turn around and lower taxes for the rest of us for relief. All while not letting the debt get further out of control.

August 20, 2008, 6:45 a.m.

‘Just Words’ That Joe Biden Would Like To Forget
The curse of a loose mouth and Nexis.

By Jim Geraghty

The fun thing about an Obama-Biden ticket is that the McCain campaign can point to a new awkward comment by Joe Biden — either on the importance of experience, in praise of McCain, or in support of invading Iraq — that contradicts the stands and qualities of the Democratic nominee for every day from now until Election Day.

On McCain:
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...”

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”

On Obama:
Reacting to an Obama speech on counterterrorism, August 1, 2007: “‘Look, the truth is the four major things he called for, well, hell that’s what I called for,’ Biden said today on MSNBC’s Hardball, echoing comments he made earlier in the day at an event promoting his book at the National Press Club. Biden added, ‘I’m glad he’s talking about these things.’”

Also that day, the Biden campaign issued a release that began, “The Biden for President Campaign today congratulated Sen. Barack Obama for arriving at a number of Sen. Biden’s long-held views on combating al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.” That release mocked Obama for asking about the “stunning level of mercury in fish” and asked about a proposal for the U.S. adopt a ban on mercury sales abroad at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing.

Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007: “My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”

Speaking to the New York Observer: Biden was equally skeptical — albeit in a slightly more backhanded way — about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

Also from that Observer interview: “But — and the ‘but’ was clearly inevitable — he doubts whether American voters are going to elect ‘a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate,’ and added: ‘I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.’”

Around that time, Biden in an interview with the Huffington Post, he assessed Obama and Hillary Clinton: “The more people learn about them (Obama and Hillary) and how they handle the pressure, the more their support will evaporate.”

December 11, 2007: “If Iowans believe campaign funds and celebrity will fix the debacle in Iraq, put the economy on track, and provide health care and education for America’s children, they should support another candidate,” said Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro. “But I’m confident that Iowans know what I know: our problems will require experience and leadership from Day One. Empty slogans will be no match for proven action on caucus night.”

Also that night, Biden said in a campaign ad, “When this campaign is over, political slogans like ‘experience’ and ‘change’ will mean absolutely nothing. The next president has to act.”

September 26, 2007: Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro said, “Sen. Obama said he would do everything possible to end the war in Iraq and emphasized the need for a political solution yet he failed to show up to vote for Sen. Biden’s critical amendment to provide a political solution in Iraq.

December 26, 2006: “Frankly, I think I’m more qualified than other candidates, and the issues facing the American public are all in my wheelbarrow.”

On Iraq:
Biden on Meet the Press in 2002, discussing Saddam Hussein: “He’s a long term threat and a short term threat to our national security… “We have no choice but to eliminate the threat. This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2002: “Saddam must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2007, on Hussein’s WMDs: “Well, the point is, it turned out they didn’t, but everyone in the world thought he had them. The weapons inspectors said he had them. He catalogued — they catalogued them. This was not some, some Cheney, you know, pipe dream. This was, in fact, catalogued.”

Biden, on Obama’s Iraq plan in August 2007: “I don’t want [my son] going [to Iraq],” Delaware Sen. Joe Biden said from the campaign trail Wednesday, according to a report on Radio Iowa. “But I tell you what, I don’t want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years and so how we leave makes a big difference.” Biden criticized Democratic rivals such as Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama who have voted against Iraq funding bills to try to pressure President Bush to end the war. “There’s no political point worth my son’s life,” Biden said, according to Radio Iowa. “There’s no political point worth anybody’s life out there. None.”

Biden on Meet the Press, April 29, 2007: “The threat [Saddam Hussein] presented was that, if Saddam was left unfettered, which I said during that period, for the next five years with sanctions lifted and billions of dollars into his coffers, then I believed he had the ability to acquire a tactical nuclear weapon — not by building it, by purchasing it. I also believed he was a threat in that he was — every single solitary U.N. resolution which he agreed to abide by, which was the equivalent of a peace agreement at the United Nations, after he got out of — after we kicked him out of Kuwait, he was violating. Now, the rules of the road either mean something or they don’t. The international community says “We’re going to enforce the sanctions we placed” or not. And what was the international community doing? The international community was weakening. They were pulling away.”

Biden to the Brookings Institution in 2005: “We can call it quits and withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our enemies to wait us out — equally a mistake.”

Analyzing the surge on Meet the Press, September 9, 2007: “I mean, the truth of the matter is that, that the — America’s — this administration’s policy and the surge are a failure, and that the surge, which was supposed to stop sectarian violence and — long enough to give political reconciliation, there’s been no political reconciliation... The reality is that, although there has been some mild progress on the security front, there is, in fact, no, no real security in Baghdad and/or in Anbar province, where I was, dealing with the most serious problem, sectarian violence. Sectarian violence is as strong and as solid and as serious a problem as it was before the surge started.”

Biden in October of 2002: “We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after.”

On Meet the Press, January 7, 2007, assessing the proposal of a surge of troops to Iraq: “If he surges another 20, 30, or whatever number he’s going to, into Baghdad, it’ll be a tragic mistake, in my view, but, as a practical matter, there’s no way to say, ‘Mr. President, stop.’”

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “Unless we fundamentally change the rotation dates and fundamentally change how many members of the National Guard we’re calling up, it’ll be virtually impossible to maintain 150,000 folks this year.” (The number of troops in Iraq peaked at 162,000 in August 2007, during the surge.)

Having said all that: “There’s something decent at the core of Joe Biden.” — Jim Geraghty, December 13, 2007

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NGRhNzJlMWY5NjdiNzhjMTRkYjMzNjYwOGJmYzNjMTY=

He might say that he won't raise taxes, but I don't think he will ever follow through with these promises. Besides, a Democratic Congress will never allow/approve it. When the Bush tax cuts expire, and they will, we will all see a tax increase. What about some of the programs Obama wants? How are they going to be paid for? They'll be paid for by us, the tax payers, and it won't matter if you're middle or upper class.

Biden has been around forever.  Add to that that he just ran against Obama in the Primary and throw in the fact that he has loose lips when he's pissed off at you and it all equals plenty of fun and interesting sound bites from the guy.

He has very high integrity though.  A solid voting record and boat loads of knowledge of foreign affairs.  He does understand that you can see Russia from Alaska but he probably does not count that as forign policy experience.

As far as Obama's spending goes, all I can tell you is that the Bush Admin. has nearly doubled our debt in 8 years.  Did you catch that?  Think about it. 

OK, it's time for some tough facts... 

Why do I always hear people worry about Democrats raising taxes but I never hear them talk about the debt that we are going to pass to our kids and grand kids?

Some people want to pay less taxes but don't want to lose what services they get from the Government.  If you lower taxes withour lowering spending you create debt.  When you create debt, you get to a point where you are stealing the value of a dollar.  Have a look at foreign exchange rates these days.  Those folks in Europe love to vacation in the US now because they can buy quite a bit with their Euro currency.  That's our fault.  Bad economic management.  Make the sheeple think you are saving them a buck on taxes but turn around and borrow the money from China to finance the debt you just created.  And people fall for that crap. 

Below is a chart of the National debt since 1938 and the Presidents who are responsible for it.  Clinton had a litle over a trillion of it but got it under control and left with a balanced budget and a surplus for Bush 43.

You will see that Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 created about $7.5 Trillion of the $9.6 Trillion we have now.

If you think that's a good thing then you need to go back to school.  The debt is one of those outa sight outa mind things for most people but it has a direct bearing on our economy.  We are on the hook to the Communist Chinese and most of that has happened in the last 8 years.  In case you were not aware, China is NOT our friend.  Now we're in debt to them.

I don't wanna hear anybody say "how's Obama gonna pay for that?"  Since when did any Republican care how we pay for anything?  The proof is in black and white.  If they wanna tax less then they need to cut services.  They had Bush' first 6 years to cut anything they wanted.  Instead they GREW entitlement programs like medicare prescriptions.

Give me a break.

Get out much? Bet you are a real hit at parties.

At least he is doing his homework before he casts his vote! People these days are to lazy about this. That is how we ended up with 8 years of Bush! Educate yourself PLEASE!!!

Why can't someone ask "how's Obama gonna pay for that?" I, for one, would like to know how he's going to pay for all of his programs. Maybe by raising our taxes??

Considering the choices we had Bush was the best choice available. Thats why he won . O bama has not had 2 terms anything.

773H209, I agree with you. Bush vs Gore, Bush vs. Kerry, it was a no brainer on who was the better choice in both of those elections.

The media once again shows it's left/liberal ways.

Published on NewsBusters.org (http://newsbusters.org)
ABC News Edited Out Key Parts of Sarah Palin Interview
By P.J. Gladnick
Created 2008-09-13 07:26
A transcript [1] of the unedited interview of Sarah Palin by Charles Gibson clearly shows that ABC News edited out crucial portions of the interview that showed Palin as knowledgeable or presented her answers out of context. This unedited transcript of the first of the Gibson interviews with Palin is available on radio host Mark Levin's website [2]. The sections edited out by ABC News are in bold. The first edit shows Palin responding about meeting with foreign leaders but this was actually in response to a question Gibson asked several questions earlier:

GIBSON: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?

PALIN: There in the state of Alaska, our international trade activities bring in many leaders of other countries.

GIBSON: And all governors deal with trade delegations.

PALIN: Right.

GIBSON: Who act at the behest of their governments.

PALIN: Right, right.

GIBSON: I’m talking about somebody who’s a head of state, who can negotiate for that country. Ever met one?

PALIN: I have not and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you. But, Charlie, again, we’ve got to remember what the desire is in this nation at this time. It is for no more politics as usual and somebody’s big, fat resume maybe that shows decades and decades in that Washington establishment, where, yes, they’ve had opportunities to meet heads of state … these last couple of weeks … it has been overwhelming to me that confirmation of the message that Americans are getting sick and tired of that self-dealing and kind of that closed door, good old boy network that has been the Washington elite.

Next we see that Palin was not nearly as hostile towards Russia as was presented in the edited interview:

GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.

PALIN: Sure.

GIBSON: Let’s start, because we are near Russia, let’s start with Russia and Georgia.

The administration has said we’ve got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

PALIN: First off, we’re going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain’s running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we’ve got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep…

GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.

And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?

PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

We also see from Palin's following remark, which was also edited out, that she is far from some sort of latter day Cold Warrior which the edited interview made her seem to be:

We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We’ve learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.

We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

Palin's extended remarks about defending our NATO allies were edited out to make it seem that she was ready to go to war with Russia.

GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn’t we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?

PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you’re going to be expected to be called upon and help.

But NATO, I think, should include Ukraine, definitely, at this point and I think that we need to — especially with new leadership coming in on January 20, being sworn on, on either ticket, we have got to make sure that we strengthen our allies, our ties with each one of those NATO members.

We have got to make sure that that is the group that can be counted upon to defend one another in a very dangerous world today.

GIBSON: And you think it would be worth it to the United States, Georgia is worth it to the United States to go to war if Russia were to invade.

PALIN: What I think is that smaller democratic countries that are invaded by a larger power is something for us to be vigilant against. We have got to be cognizant of what the consequences are if a larger power is able to take over smaller democratic countries.

And we have got to be vigilant. We have got to show the support, in this case, for Georgia. The support that we can show is economic sanctions perhaps against Russia, if this is what it leads to.

It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.

His mission, if it is to control energy supplies, also, coming from and through Russia, that’s a dangerous position for our world to be in, if we were to allow that to happen.

That answer presented Palin as a bit too knowledgeable for the purposes of ABC News and was, of course, edited out. Palin's answers about a nuclear Iran were carefully edited to the point where she was even edited out in mid-sentence to make it seem that Palin favored unilateral action against that country:

GIBSON: Let me turn to Iran. Do you consider a nuclear Iran to be an existential threat to Israel?

PALIN: I believe that under the leadership of Ahmadinejad, nuclear weapons in the hands of his government are extremely dangerous to everyone on this globe, yes.

GIBSON: So what should we do about a nuclear Iran? John McCain said the only thing worse than a war with Iran would be a nuclear Iran. John Abizaid said we may have to live with a nuclear Iran. Who’s right?

PALIN: No, no. I agree with John McCain that nuclear weapons in the hands of those who would seek to destroy our allies, in this case, we’re talking about Israel, we’re talking about Ahmadinejad’s comment about Israel being the “stinking corpse, should be wiped off the face of the earth,” that’s atrocious. That’s unacceptable.

GIBSON: So what do you do about a nuclear Iran?

PALIN: We have got to make sure that these weapons of mass destruction, that nuclear weapons are not given to those hands of Ahmadinejad, not that he would use them, but that he would allow terrorists to be able to use them. So we have got to put the pressure on Iran and we have got to count on our allies to help us, diplomatic pressure.

GIBSON: But, Governor, we’ve threatened greater sanctions against Iran for a long time. It hasn’t done any good. It hasn’t stemmed their nuclear program.

PALIN: We need to pursue those and we need to implement those. We cannot back off. We cannot just concede that, oh, gee, maybe they’re going to have nuclear weapons, what can we do about it. No way, not Americans. We do not have to stand for that.

Laughably, a remark by Gibson that indicated he agreed with Palin was edited out:

PALIN: But the reference there is a repeat of Abraham Lincoln’s words when he said — first, he suggested never presume to know what God’s will is, and I would never presume to know God’s will or to speak God’s words.

But what Abraham Lincoln had said, and that’s a repeat in my comments, was let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God’s side.

That’s what that comment was all about, Charlie. And I do believe, though, that this war against extreme Islamic terrorists is the right thing. It’s an unfortunate thing, because war is hell and I hate war, and, Charlie, today is the day that I send my first born, my son, my teenage son overseas with his Stryker brigade, 4,000 other wonderful American men and women, to fight for our country, for democracy, for our freedoms.

Charlie, those are freedoms that too many of us just take for granted. I hate war and I want to see war ended. We end war when we see victory, and we do see victory in sight in Iraq.

GIBSON: I take your point about Lincoln’s words, but you went on and said, “There is a plan and it is God’s plan.”

Gibson took her point about Lincoln's words but we wouldn't know that by watching the interview since it was left on the cutting room floor. I urge everybody to see just how the unedited version of the first interview compared to what we saw on television by checking out the full transcript [3]. It is a fascinating look into media manipulation via skillful editing.

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview

To the person who defended my posts, I appreciate your words.

To the person who wants to know how Obama's gonna pay for that I would suggest you read the Obama for President thread.  The majority of the wealth in this Country is held by a very few people.  Obama has already said that if you make more than $250K/ year then your taxes will go back up to where they were during Clinton.  The wealthiest have used their money and power to manipulate laws such that it allows them to expand their wealth.

The middle class has not benefited on this at all.  If there is one thing that keeps this economy going and helps the people do well and even the rich get richer it is strong consumer spending.

Putting taxes back to where they were under Clinton will give us the money to provide tax relief to the middle class.   

Now...  For those of you who believe that McCain has a better tax plan then I have two things to say.

1.  McCain has no plan to make up for any tax breaks other than to expand the debt and borrow more.  Obama will, as you read above, tax the wealthiest at pre-Bush levels to pay for middle class tax relief.

2.  The modern day authority on the economy has been Alan Greenspan.  He's recently retired but still active in this stuff.

Here is an excerpt from Today's USA Today:

Right on!!!!

Just when I think I know what I am going to do You confuse me with Facts. Nice to see you back.

Doesn't anyone remember Viet Nam ?? Would any of us,that grew up during that elect a man named MAO into the white house ??? I know damn well I wouldn't..Now , doesn't anyone remember 9-11 ?? And ya wanna elect
a man named Hussein into the white house ??

im voting independent, maybe lol

You, my friend represent all that this country needs to get away from. I suppose I could see your issue a little better had he changed his middle name to Hussein. But he didn't , he was born in America to an American mother and a Kenyain father. Like many in this country he was born into a blended family.
May I suggest you re read your comments before posting. Do you really want to come off as an uneducated "reneck"?

I certainly applaud ElwoodGuy for his thorough research, and commitment to provide readers on this site with intelligent information. I am so tired of reading the garbage tossed about on Willkie Pride - they remind me of a bowling team of frumpy old ladies who desire to do nothing but complain. They seldom, if ever, research their facts, and simply spit out rhetoric that has little, if any, foundation in truth. One obnoxious old geezer had the audacity to say that any one who voted for Obama probably believed that television wrestling was real.

ElwoodGuy, a proclaimed independent as myself, refrains from name calling and using belittling comments, displaying far more intelligence and class than demonstrated on another local website.

Thanks, ElwoodGuy!

OK. Is spending $150,000 on Palin’s wardrobe this month alone necessary? I mean when you are this far behind in the polls I guess they are striving to win the “Best Dressed” category. If they were wise they would place that money back into the campaign and try to win over some swing states.
Also, since when does the Vice President control the Senate? She clearly made that claim earlier. You can check it out at:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/22/palin-takes-heat-for-saying-vp-in-charge-of-the-senate/
I used to be a staunch Republican however I have changed to Independent due to not liking a party controlling my thoughts. I have to vote for Obama/Biden even though they may not win the “Best Dressed” category on the ballot.

Best Regards,

Matthew Tyner

And they are pulling ahead in the polls daily now. It looks like McCain's true character is shining through now as he and his people are making uglier and uglier comments. They're getting desperate and it's starting to show for sure.

History is going to be made Nov 4th and I can't wait.

voting independent was for ralph nator or someone like that.....if those are my only 2 choice's i aint voting at all..lol

I think a guy by the name of Robert Bar is either running Ind or Libertarian....not sure. Might want to check him out.